Talk:List of longest-living state leaders

Nouhak Phoumsavanh and Juan Francisco de Molina: Reply

← Previous revision Revision as of 08:29, 25 April 2026 Line 394: Line 394: ::may I bring back the issue on [[Rafael de Echagüe y Bermingham]] because I just did a research about a week ago, and The Philippines during that time wasn't a fully sovereign state It would mean that Bermingham would not qualify as a state leader, because of the reason that it was a Former colony of Spain, and later Territory of the United States (1898-1946) and Japan (1941-45), I might suggest that he would be transferred to the unclear Status, and another this list only covers those born after 1800, Juan Francisco de Molina would not even qualify for the main list because he was born prior to 1800 not in 1800 or after. [[Special:Contributions/~2026-24349-30|~2026-24349-30]] ([[User talk:~2026-24349-30|talk]]) 03:26, 25 April 2026 (UTC) ::may I bring back the issue on [[Rafael de Echagüe y Bermingham]] because I just did a research about a week ago, and The Philippines during that time wasn't a fully sovereign state It would mean that Bermingham would not qualify as a state leader, because of the reason that it was a Former colony of Spain, and later Territory of the United States (1898-1946) and Japan (1941-45), I might suggest that he would be transferred to the unclear Status, and another this list only covers those born after 1800, Juan Francisco de Molina would not even qualify for the main list because he was born prior to 1800 not in 1800 or after. [[Special:Contributions/~2026-24349-30|~2026-24349-30]] ([[User talk:~2026-24349-30|talk]]) 03:26, 25 April 2026 (UTC) ::It seems to have instead rather been a [[General Captaincy]], meaning "Spanish captaincies general, on account of their independence and distance from the crown, became virtual viceroyalties, having a direct relationship with the king and the Council of the Indies, in Madrid.", unlike the governors of other colonies, the governor of the Philippines was referred to as 'Governor-General', unlike other colonies where the rulers simply referred to "colonial governors" even on their pages. The rule states since the 1800s not born since the 1800s meaning people who at least served in the 1800s can reasonably be included if there exists reliable sources. [[User:Pe Class Heroes010210|Pe Class Heroes010210]] ([[User talk:Pe Class Heroes010210|talk]]) 08:21, 25 April 2026 (UTC) ::It seems to have instead rather been a [[General Captaincy]], meaning "Spanish captaincies general, on account of their independence and distance from the crown, became virtual viceroyalties, having a direct relationship with the king and the Council of the Indies, in Madrid.", unlike the governors of other colonies, the governor of the Philippines was referred to as 'Governor-General', unlike other colonies where the rulers simply referred to "colonial governors" even on their pages. The rule states since the 1800s not born since the 1800s meaning people who at least served in the 1800s can reasonably be included if there exists reliable sources. [[User:Pe Class Heroes010210|Pe Class Heroes010210]] ([[User talk:Pe Class Heroes010210|talk]]) 08:21, 25 April 2026 (UTC) :::As It was still a Colony of the [[Spanish Empire]] he wouldn't quality on the main List, as the most customary thing is that the Governor-Generals of a fully sovereign state is actually different from a Colonolial Governor-General, :::How about Phoumsavavhn, I thought you would transfer him to the Uncertain DOB @[[User:Pe Class Heroes010210|Pe Class Heroes010210]] [[Special:Contributions/~2026-24349-30|~2026-24349-30]] ([[User talk:~2026-24349-30|talk]]) 08:29, 25 April 2026 (UTC)