Talk:Route 22 (MBTA)/GA1

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← Previous revision Revision as of 05:02, 4 May 2026 Line 43: Line 43: ===History=== ===History=== ;Streetcar changes ;Streetcar changes *I don't know if this is necessary, but if you could find information about why certain changes were made when they were, it would be great to include. I'm guessing most route changes were made in conjunction with changing commuter patterns. *<s>I don't know if this is necessary, but if you could find information about why certain changes were made when they were, it would be great to include. I'm guessing most route changes were made in conjunction with changing commuter patterns.</s> **Where available (usually when a rapid transit extension opened), I've already included the reasoning. Unfortunately, most other changes don't have a reason given in the papers. **Where available (usually when a rapid transit extension opened), I've already included the reasoning. Unfortunately, most other changes don't have a reason given in the papers. *{{tq|In 1907, service on Talbot Avenue consisted of the Dudley–Peabody Square route...}} - just to confirm, did this service begin in 1907, or was this the earliest you could find sources for its existence? *<s>{{tq|In 1907, service on Talbot Avenue consisted of the Dudley–Peabody Square route...}} - just to confirm, did this service begin in 1907, or was this the earliest you could find sources for its existence?</s> **The cited source is a listing of (most of) the streetcar network as it existed in 1907. (Specifically, all routes that intersected the [[Orange Line (MBTA)|Main Line Elevated]].) **The cited source is a listing of (most of) the streetcar network as it existed in 1907. (Specifically, all routes that intersected the [[Orange Line (MBTA)|Main Line Elevated]].) *{{tq|Most service on the latter route terminated on Blue Hill Avenue at Franklin Field at the west end of Talbot Avenue.}} Could you please elaborate on the meaning of "most service"? Does this mean that the route occasionally went beyond Franklin Field, and if so, to where? Maybe the service changed depending on demand? *{{tq|Most service on the latter route terminated on Blue Hill Avenue at Franklin Field at the west end of Talbot Avenue.}} Could you please elaborate on the meaning of "most service"? Does this mean that the route occasionally went beyond Franklin Field, and if so, to where? Maybe the service changed depending on demand? **That same source lists the longer version of the route with a symbol indicating "not a full-time route (usually rush-hour only or pullback)" (pullback indicating cars going to/from the carhouse at the beginning or end of service). Unfortunately I can't find anything that provides any more detail. **That same source lists the longer version of the route with a symbol indicating "not a full-time route (usually rush-hour only or pullback)" (pullback indicating cars going to/from the carhouse at the beginning or end of service). Unfortunately I can't find anything that provides any more detail. *Recommend changing "Within several years" to "within a few years", since this appears to have taken place within a three-year period. Does this mean it began as an all-day service, switched to partial-day, and then returned to all-day in mid-1913? *<s>Recommend changing "Within several years" to "within a few years", since this appears to have taken place within a three-year period. Does this mean it began as an all-day service, switched to partial-day, and then returned to all-day in mid-1913?</s> **{{sym|?}} I don't understand - to me, those two phrases mean the same thing, with the current phrasing more formal. And yes, that's what it appears, though the 1910 source doesn't explicitly say it originated as all-day. **{{sym|?}} I don't understand - to me, those two phrases mean the same thing, with the current phrasing more formal. And yes, that's what it appears, though the 1910 source doesn't explicitly say it originated as all-day. ***I guess we could let this go the way it is know. I was under the impression it began as an all-day service in 1910, but if you can't confirm this, then I don't guess there's much that can be done. ;1940s and trolleybus conversions ;1940s and trolleybus conversions *When it says that the route numbers were reassigned in 1940-41, does this mean they weren't all done at once? Is a more precise date available for when Route 22 was assigned? *When it says that the route numbers were reassigned in 1940-41, does this mean they weren't all done at once? Is a more precise date available for when Route 22 was assigned?